My friend Steve Clevenger was kind enough to post this interview today on the Reformed Baptist Fellowship blog:
Note: Jeffrey T. Riddle is Pastor of Christ
Reformed Baptist Church in Charlottesville, Virginia. He recently completed a simplification and
abridgement of John Owen’s classic “The True Nature of a Gospel Church and Its
Government” under the new title “GospelChurch Government” (Grace Publications, 2012). The book is distributed by Evangelical Press.
RBF: Tell us about Gospel Church Government.
Riddle: This book is a
simplified and abridged revision of John Owen’s classic work The True Nature of a Gospel Church and Its
Government, from volume 16 of his Collected Works. It is being released this month (April 2012)
by Grace Publications in the UK in their “Great Christian Classics” series.
RBF: How did you come to work on this project?
Riddle: I first read
Owen’s original work in 2009. I was
really struck by his interpretation of Biblical ecclesiology. As most know, Owen is not always easy to read
and understand in the original. As I
worked my way through the book, I thought that it might be nice if there were a
simplified version to make it more easily accessible to modern readers. I know how much I have personally profited from
reading some of the simplified and abridged versions of Owen that Banner of
Truth has published (e.g., R. J. K Law’s Communion
With God and Richard Rushing’s The
Mortification of Sin). I also knew
about the simplified “Great Christian Classics” series by Grace
Publications. I had read a couple of the
books in that series and used them in ministry, particularly Wake Up and Live (a simplified version of
Joseph Alleine’s Alarm to the Unconverted—a
great book to use in evangelism). The
books in the Grace series are pitched at an even simpler level than the Banner
of Truth abridgements. I contacted the editors
at Grace Publications about working on a revision of The True Nature of a Gospel Church and Its Government, and they
agreed that it would be a worthwhile project.
RBF: Why consult a simplified revision rather than
encouraging the reading of the original?
Riddle: I suppose there
are some purists who would say that you should always and only read the
original works. I recently read about a
debate that broke out among English literature scholars over an abridgement of
Sir Walter Scott’s classic novel Ivanhoe. My hope certainly is that some people might
read Gospel Church Government and be
led to take up and read Owen’s original.
Perhaps reading this book first might even help them to understand Owen
better. Others might not have the time
or inclination to read the original, and they can, at least, have access and
exposure to many of Owen’s important teachings on church government through
this revision. Grace Publications also
works with an affiliated ministry called Grace Missions which publishes some of
the works in the series into other languages. We have such a store of Christian
literature in English that many other languages do not have. I am hopeful that Gospel Church Government might be translated into other languages
and Owen’s ideas on church government shared in other cultures.
RBF: What is Gospel
Church Government about?
Riddle: This book is
Owen’s mature reflections on the Bible’s teaching on church government. He wrote it in 1683, the year of his death,
though it was not published until 1689.
Owen had started out as a Presbyterian but then became a
Congregationalist and Independent. In
this book, he first discusses the nature and authority of the church. He then spends a lot of time on what he sees
as the four Biblical church offices:
Pastor (Teaching Elder); Teacher; Ruling Elder; and Deacon. He then discusses the practice of church
discipline, warning in particular about abuses, and offering very practical
pastoral counsel. Finally, he discusses
the importance and necessity of fellowship or “communion” among churches.
RBF: Why would this book be of interest for Reformed
Baptists?
Riddle: Owen obviously
had a significant influence on the early Particular Baptists, including their views
on church government. He was one of the
principle authors of the Congregationalist Savoy
Declaration (1658) which deeply
influenced the Second London Baptist
Confession (1689). Among
contemporary Reformed Baptists there seems to be some recent renewed discussion,
in particular, on the role of elders in the church. Does the Bible teach “parity” of elders? Is there a distinction to be made between
Ministers and Ruling Elders? Given this,
I think anyone would profit from reading Owen’s views on church officers. Owen gives emphasis, in particular, to Ruling
Elders (two chapters in the original are condensed to one in this revision). Though this was minority position among the
early Particular Baptists, James Renihan has shown that it was a view held by some (see his book Edification and Beauty: The
Practical Ecclesiology of the Early English Particular Baptists, 1675-1705). Those who reject the idea of Ruling Elders
will have to respond to Owen’s arguments in its favor. He was not known for holding a view lightly
or unadvisedly. This would be one
example of an issue this book addresses that might interest contemporary Reformed
Baptists.
Gospel Church
Government is not by
any means an academic or scholarly book.
It is a popular and simple presentation.
I hope it might be helpful and edifying for the busy church officer or interested
Christian who simply wants to know more about the church and Biblical
churchmanship. Ω
Hey pastor Riddle,
ReplyDeleteHow many reformed baptist churches in the USA actually have ruling elders in their churches to your knowledge? I aspire to be a ruling elder, but am a member at a reformed baptist church that believes that all elders are pastors and vice-versa. What would you recommend people in my situation do? Thank you.
Though it is a minority position there are, I believe, a growing number of churches that hold to this position or who are considering it or acting in a de facto manner with this ecclesiology.
ReplyDeleteHere in Virginia my church and Redeeming Grace Church in Matthews, Va both hold this practice and it is part of our governing docs.
As for what you have to do in your situation, I think you have to be submitted to the practices of your church. You can speak with your pastor or elders about your views and get their feedback. If you aspire to the eldership you can humbly serve, pray, and see if the body affirms that calling by tapping you for the office.
What do you think?
Thank you for your feedback pastor Riddle. Glad to hear that there are a growing number of churches that hold to this position or who are considering it or acting in a de facto manner with this ecclesiology like you said.
ReplyDeleteMy default position has been and continues to be to submit to the practices of my church. Nevertheless, I am also interested in church planting with the help of my church as much as that is possible and if it be the Lord's will of course. If church planting does not take place, then I was trying to figure out how one's view would fit in my church context since there are perhaps different expectations as to what every elder should do or be able to do (as in teaching and preaching ability/gifting for example).
Any thoughts on that?
Without knowing all the details of your situation, I'd say it sounds like you're doing what you can. If the church plants a new church, is it possible that the new church would hold to the teaching/ruler elder distinction?
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