In Book XI of the Confessions,
Augustine meditates on the eternality of God and his relation to time. He answers
skeptics who scornfully ask: What did God do before the creation of the word?
Augustine’s answer is that God is eternal. He created time and is not within
it. Every moment in time is equally accessible to him.
He cites the skeptics in chapter X:
Now, are not those still full of their
old carnal nature who ask us: “What was God doing before he made the heavens and earth? For if he was idle” they say,
“and doing nothing, then why did he not continue in that state forever—doing nothing,
as he had always done?”
Augustine recognizes this as a challenge to the immutability
of God, continuing to quote the skeptic:
“If any new motion has arisen in God,
and a new will to form a creature, which he had never before formed, how can
that be a true eternity in which an act of will occurs that was not there
before?”
Augustine’s defense of God’s immutability is in his affirmation
of God’s eternality. Of the skeptics, he says:
They endeavor to comprehend eternal
things, but their heart still flies about in the past and future motions of
created things, and is still unstable.
If the skeptics would rightly understand God and his creation
of time, then they must distinguish between divine eternality and the temporal
process. If they would make this distinction:
They would see that a long time does
not become long, except from the many separate events that occur in its
passage, which cannot be simultaneous. In the Eternal, on the other hand,
nothing passes away, but the whole is simultaneously present….
Who will hold the heart of man that
it may stand still and see how the eternity which always stands still is itself
neither future nor past but expresses itself in the times that are future and
past?
As for the skeptic who scornfully asks, “What was God doing before he made heaven and earth?”
Augustine suggests one might answer: “He was preparing hell … for those who pry
too deep.”!
In chapter XIII, he continues the theme:
For thou madest that very time itself,
and periods could not pass by before thou madest the whole temporal procession.
But if there was no time before heaven and earth, how, then, can it be asked, “What
wast thou doing then?” For there was no “then” when there was no time….
In the eminence of thy ever-present
eternity, thou precedest all times past, and extendest beyond all future times,
for they are still to come—and when they have come, they will be past….
Thy years neither go nor come; but
ours both go and come in order that all separate moments may come to pass….
Thy “today” is eternity…. Thou madest
all time and before all times thou art, and there was never a time when there
was not time.
And in chapter XIV:
There was no time, therefore, when
thou hadst not made anything, because thou hadst made time itself. And there
are not times coeternal with thee, because thou dost abide forever….
JTR
I've dealt with a similar question. Someone will ascertain that I'm a believer, then ask if the Lord is all-powerful, meaning omnipotent. When I affirm that, yes, He is, the follow up question is, "Can God make a rock so large that He can't lift it?"
ReplyDeleteOf course he can. He's God.
Then they'll argue that God isn't all powerful, because He can't lift the rock He made. My reply?
"He's God. He is a completely, truly sui generis being, and is omnipotent. He can simultaneously create a rock so heavy that He cannot lift it, and lift that rock as if it weighed nothing. He can do this, and more. Were he not God, he couldn't do this. But He is, so He can."
I never gave much thought as to what God might have been doing before He decided to create the known universe, but I suppose He did as He saw fit.
Nice blog, by the way.
MJ, thanks for the comment. Interesting that Augustine is defending a "classical" view of God as eternal, immutable, omnipotent, and, as you point out, this is still under attack from skeptics and even, sometimes, from those within the church. I'm reading a new book by James Dolezal titled "All That Is In God," which defends a classical, confessional view of God, particularly with regard to God's immutability, over against what he calls "soft mutualists." Though brief, it is also somewhat technical, but you might find it interesting. I'll eventually write a review of it.
ReplyDeleteAnyhow, good to get your feedback and encouragement. Hope all is well for you. Blessings.